On paper, an independent primary care physician and the CEO of an 18-hospital system don’t have much in common. Put them in the same conversation about payers, and the difference dissipates.
Chief Healthcare Executive, a sister publication of Medical Economics, is launching “The Roundtable,” an exclusive peer-to-peer discussion series that brings health system executives and clinical leaders together for on-the-record conversations, without prepared remarks, about the forces reshaping the industry.
This discussion is the series’ first installment.
Meet the panelists
- Robert Garrett, FACHE — CEO, Hackensack Meridian Health
- Kevin Beiner — chief operating officer, Northwell Health
- Benjamin P. Levy, M.D. — clinical director of medical oncology, Johns Hopkins Sidney Kimmel Cancer Center
- Deepak L. Bhatt, M.D., M.P.H., M.B.A. — director, Mount Sinai Fuster Heart Hospital, Icahn School of Medicine
- Stephanie Wierwille — moderator; executive vice president, strategy and innovation, BPD
Patients caught in the middle
Levy, a thoracic medical oncologist who says he is in clinic two to three days a week, kept the conversation grounded in the exam room.
He described Johns Hopkins’ contract fight with an insurer as “a collision of excessive prior authorizations, frequent treatment denials, administrative burdens and delayed payments.” It ended without an agreement, and patients he had followed for years could no longer see him.
Garrett, Hackensack Meridian’s CEO, described a contract dispute at the system last year in which the insurer’s notification letters interrupted cancer care for hundreds of patients mid-treatment, even though the contract was ultimately resolved.
Bhatt, a cardiologist who directs Mount Sinai’s Fuster Heart Hospital, argued the pattern should not be tolerated. “I don’t think putting patients in the middle of that is the right thing to do,” he said, calling for greater regulation at the state or federal level.
Beiner, Northwell’s chief operating officer, picked up Bhatt’s framing. Leverage in payer talks once came from size, he said, which is why large integrated networks grew up to match the insurers. He no longer thinks it works that way, and said leverage now rests on public and political rhetoric.